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My GP recently diagnosed (over the telephone) that I am suffering from labyrinthitis. I need to know more about this, and reading on the computer is rather difficult right now. I called and made an appointment with an ENT but they can't see me til 5 days from now. My immediate questions are: Does Afrin nasal spray make this worse or is it ok to use during this time?   And would nasal irrigation help, or make it worse? My attack started last Tuesday and when I was feeling a little better on Saturday I used Afrin to open things up, then used my nasal irrigator. I felt great all day, but then that night I got hit with severe dizziness again which lasted all through Sunday. Did I cause the relapse with the Afrin and irrigation, or did I just overdo my activities that day since I was finally feeling functional again?   Thanks in advance.

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Female , Age: 49

Already Tried:
Antivert, Tranxene, Afrin, nasal irrigation

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March 6 12:48 PM (13 minutes and 24 seconds later)
         
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Since you are having trouble reading I will tell you that using the Afrin is probably not a good idea as it can cause dizzyness.

See: AFRIN http://mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DR202432

When you are able to please read more info at the Mayo Clinic site I have quoted from:

http://mayoclinic.com/health/dizziness/DS00435/DSECTION=3

"The organ of balance in your inner ear is the vestibular labyrinth. It includes loop-shaped structures (semicircular canals) that contain fluid and fine, hair-like sensors that monitor the rotation of your head. Near the semicircular canals are the utricle and saccule, which contain tiny particles called otoconia (o-toe-KOE-nee-uh). These particles are attached to sensors that help detect gravity and back-and-forth motion.

Dizziness may have a number of potential causes. These may include:

Vertigo
Vertigo — the false sense of motion or spinning — is the most common symptom of dizziness. Sitting up or moving around may make it worse. Sometimes vertigo is severe enough to cause nausea and vomiting.

Vertigo usually results from a problem with the nerves and the structures of the balance mechanism in your inner ear (vestibular system), which sense movement and changes in your head position. Abnormal rhythmic eye movements (nystagmus) almost always accompany vertigo. Causes of vertigo may include:

  • Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo (BPPV). BPPV involves intense, brief episodes of dizziness associated with a change in the position of your head, often when you turn over in bed or sit up in the morning. It occurs when particles of calcium carbonate crystals (otoconia) break loose and fall into the wrong part of the canals in your inner ear. When these particles shift, they stimulate sensors in your ear, producing an episode of vertigo. Doctors don't know what causes BPPV, but it may be a natural result of aging. Trauma to your head also may lead to BPPV.
  • Inflammation in the inner ear (acute vestibular neuronitis or labyrinthitis). Signs and symptoms of inflammation of the inner ear include sudden, intense vertigo that may persist for several days, with nausea and vomiting. It can be incapacitating, requiring bed rest to minimize the signs and symptoms. Fortunately, vestibular neuronitis generally subsides and clears up on its own. Although the cause of this condition is unknown, it may be a viral infection.
  • Meniere's disease. This disease involves the excessive buildup of fluid in your inner ear. It may affect adults at any age and is characterized by sudden episodes of vertigo lasting 30 minutes to an hour or longer. Other symptoms include the feeling of fullness in your ear, buzzing or ringing in your ear (tinnitus), and fluctuating hearing loss. The cause of Meniere's disease is unknown.
  • Vestibular migraine. The cause of vertigo may be a migraine. People who experience a vestibular migraine are very sensitive to motion. Dizziness and vertigo caused by a vestibular migraine may be triggered by turning your head quickly, being in a crowded or confusing place, driving or riding in a vehicle, or even watching movement on TV. A vestibular migraine also may cause feelings of imbalance or unsteadiness, hearing loss, "muffled" hearing, or ringing in your ears (tinnitus). For most people with a vestibular migraine, vertigo doesn't happen at the same time as the headache. In fact, migraine-associated vertigo may occur without an actual migraine. Attacks of migrainous vertigo can last from a few minutes to several days.
  • Acoustic neuroma. An acoustic neuroma is a noncancerous (benign) growth on the acoustic nerve, which connects the inner ear to your brain. Symptoms of an acoustic neuroma may include dizziness, loss of balance, hearing loss and tinnitus.

There is extensive information about your dizziness under the topic of vertigo. The recommended self care is:
  • Be aware of the possibility of losing your balance, which can lead to falling and serious injury.
  • Sit or lie down immediately when you feel dizzy.
  • Avoid driving a car or operating heavy machinery if you experience frequent episodes of BPPV.
  • Avoid sleeping on the side of your affected ear.
  • When getting out of bed, do so slowly. Sit on the edge of the bed for a minute.
  • Avoid bending down to pick something up. Don't extend your head back, such as when getting something from an upper cabinet.
  • Be careful when getting up from lying back at the dentist's office, beauty parlor or barbershop, or during activities such as yoga or massage.
  • Use two or more pillows at night to avoid lying completely flat.
  • Use good lighting if you get up in the night.
  • Walk with a cane for stability.
  • Avoid using caffeine, alcohol and tobacco. Excessive use of these substances can constrict your blood vessels and worsen your symptoms"
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March 6 12:54 PM (5 minutes and 44 seconds later)
         
Reply to Barbara Shapiro's Post: Hi Barbara:
Thanks for the links, but since I've been down with this for almost a week now my husband has been sitting by my side with his laptop searching and reading everything he can find about this. Unfortunately what none of the sites are answering is what I can do (besides bedrest) to help make things better faster. I think the reason I felt terrific on Saturday was because I used the Afrin (which I regularlly use a few times a month) and then I did an irrigation. My primary question is whether I should do that again today, or did I somehow make things worse by irrigating, since Saturday night I got hit real hard again. Keep in mind, when I started feeing great on Saturday I tried making up for lost time and cleaned the house, scrubbed, the floor, etc. Might I have re-inflamed the middle ear by all the up and down?
Thanks.
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March 6 1:08 PM (14 minutes and 35 seconds later)
         
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I still believe that the Afrin is not indicated for your problem because you really only received a telephone diagnoses. You have tried medication for dizzyness - antivert - and this is still ocurring.

I believe you mentioned that your doctor diagnosed you over the phone. Since there could be several reasons for your dizzyness I urge you to see someone sooner than 5 days. It might be more serious than you or your physician realize.

Finally, an offering of the simplest kind - try hydrating - drink a lot of water.
Dehydration can lead to severe dizzyness. If it occurs as you stand from a sitting position that may be all you need - some water.

The tranxene also has a common side effect of dizziness.

Hope this helps. Barbara


Edited by barbshap on March 6 2006 at 1:09 PM



B.Shap
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March 6 1:21 PM (12 minutes and 55 seconds later)
         
Reply to Barbara Shapiro's Post: Hi Barb. Even though the diagnosis was only over the phone, he believes it's Lab since I've had it twice before in the past 20 years. I always have some sort of problem in that ear, and I have seen an ENT before. The Antivert seemed to make things worse, but I think that's because it causes excitability in some people, and since I have panic attacks, the Antivert was increasing those, thus more dizziness. The Tranxene works wonderfully for the vertigo. I agree that I'll lay off the Afrin, but what about irrigation? Might that help speed the healing?   And yes, I know all about dehydration and have made sure that's not happening. Thanks again for all your prompt responses.
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March 6 3:30 PM (2 hours and 8 minutes and 35 seconds later)
         
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I urge you or your husband to look at this page:
http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/dysauto/157018.html

There are sufferers of your conditions who tell about what worked for them It seems it's a combo of physical manipulation & other treatments. Here is one example but I strongly urge you to read the others on this site:

"Here are the details, the websites, and the fact that it is a QUICK CURE (1 1/2 days), at least for me. It consists of a five-pronged regimen:
1. Hot Showers to the side of your head, which seems to be involved. This will loosen things up and tend to deal a bit with infection and swelling.
2. Sudafed - This an OTC decongestant which reduces swelling and fluid buildup. DRINK LOTS OF WATER, which also works as a decongestant. I took the liquid so I could control the dose and not be wiped out by the drug effect. You can always take a little more, if and when you need it. This will address any fluids building up in your inner ear. You might have to ask the pharmacist for it behind the counter.
3. Gargle with hot salt water...helps to clean and open Eustachian tubes. Also, Listerine (brand only) will kill many germs in your throat and help clean up you Eustachian tubes, just in case.
4. Cervical Spine Adjustment by a Chiropractor who can do it correctly. The uppermost spinal bones get out of alignment, possibly when you sleep. Tell the Chiro what you want it for.
5. Particle Repositioning Maneuver This is difficult, but makes some sense to me.

Chiropractic approach explained: http://www.erinelster.com/Articles/vertigo_article_01_00.html

This is the particle-repositioning maneuver to which the other caller referred. I tried it on myself with limited success:

http://www.kyent.com/particle_repositioning_maneuver.htm

I hope this advice is useful. This horribly disabling experience...I had never had anything like this before.

Bill Steiner Mt. Pleasant, PA "
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