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thrush is hell.


Sent to Health Experts August 13, 2007 3:55 p.m.

hi there.

• i have very severe candidiasis. this is _not_ nebulous "candida, "leaky gut syndrome" etc & ect. instead, what i have been unable to destroy over the last 5.5 months is an extraordinary amount of [diagnosed] cutaneous & gastro-intestinal candidiasis & an oral thrush so virulent it has only by great effort not completely invaded my esophagus & thence hastened my departure for another, better world [one hopes].

• i am _not_ hiv+ nor do i fall into any other [immunodeficient] risk group.

• i have been on nysatin [oral & salve], econozole, erythromycin [salve], cipro, miconozole, more. battles are won but the war rages on.

• 2 q's: 1/ what else can i do? 2/ is there an oral fungus other than c. albicans? nystatin works but gunk in mouth doesnt present as standard thrush [ie: sesame seeds, other seeds, oatmeal, not elmers paste. worsens if i eat, reacts to various foods].

thank you from all of us here at RealCrazyApartment, where mold abounds from cracked pipes & flooding.

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Female, California

Already Tried:
nystatin liquid & cream, econozole, miconozole, erythromycin salve, cipro, permethrin [when it was mis-dx'd as scabies, causing me a whole field o' trouble]. one of my parrots also has oral thrush, this to the tune of $1500+ hospitalization/meds. she also had high asper levels. the air in my apartment is filled w/ mold spores from the rot of the bathroom/kitchen wall & the rot of my two separated at birth evil twin landlords. therefore, next i am trying the health dept.
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August 13, 2007 6:30 p.m. (2 hours and 35 minutes later)
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Hello Customer (name blocked for privacy),

You have a very clever name, sadly appropriate to your situation. I scoured the Internet, and the only cause of oral fungus I could find was Candida. Even HIV patients who because of their lack of immunity end up with truly rare ailments, they dont seem to acquire other forms of oral fungus other than Candida. There ARE several other candidal organisms besides candida albicans, and they are associated with allergies, irritations, and yes, thrush like symptoms. If even the PARROT has thrush, then its likely you are right and it is caused by environmental conditions. But its also wise to rule out the medical concerns:

There are many causes of thrush...you name one, immunodeficiency. It is good you know that you do not have HIV, as thats a major cause. BUT, are you sure of that? Severe thrush like you describe...especially esophogeal thrush can be an AIDS indicator. If you have been HIV tested recently, then you do truly know. Here is a website on HIV indicator conditions: http://www.aids-ed.org/aidsetc?page=cm-105_disease#S7X

Diabetes can also cause thrush as the blood has high levels of sugar that yeast thrive on. Diabetes is diagnosed by your provider with blood tests, and youd have symptoms including but not limited to frequent urination, thirst, hunger, and anxiety/ irritation.

I also reccomend since you have such severe thrush that you be seen by an Infectious Disease specialist. They are used to treating severe cases as many HIV patients have severe thrush. They may know of interventions and tests that your general practitioner may not be aware of.

Now we come to the environment. Below is a link to a PDF presentation authored by physicians...if you need to have evidence to bring to the health department, that can be a start. http://www.gwu.edu/~macche/EOHtutorial/presentations/molds.pdf

This next link is helpful also...lists many forms of mold spores in the air and the sicknesses that can result from them: http://www.mold-help.org/content/view/479/60/ . The main site, Mold-Help.org also has alot of information on how you can take your building manager to task for the condition of your apartment.

But you want to know what steps you can take NOW to help you feel better. From the American Industrial Hygiene Associations website:

""Con-trolling excess moisture is the key to preventing and stopping indoor mold growth. Keeping susceptible areas in the home clean and dry is very important. Ventilate or use exhaust fans (vented to the outdoors) to remove moisture where it accumulates, particularly in bathrooms, kitchens, and laundry areas. Clothes dryers should be vented to the outside. Repair water leaks promptly, and either dry out and clean or replace water-damaged materials. Materials that stay wet for more than 48 hours are likely to produce mold growth. Lowering humidity indoors helps prevent condensation problems. To lower humidity during humid weather, use air conditioners and dehumidifiers. Proper exterior wall insulation helps prevent condensation from forming inside during cold weather."" http://www.aiha.org/Content/AccessInfo/consumer/factsaboutmold.htm

I would definately if I were you save all my medical bills, and parrots veterinary bills...if your building IS being negligent and you sue them for this, maybe they will be forced to compensate you for the expenses.

I in my web search have come across lots of products to eliminate molds, but I have no way to determine if they actually work or not. Here are some websites. I cant promise you they will help or be effective. Also, HEPA air filters can help to eliminate dander and spores as well.

www.stretcher.com/stories/01/010625a.cfm

www.dtep.com/moldaway.htm

Good luck to you...

Sincerely,

Susan



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